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      into the best versions of themselves.                  things and get it done. On a more personal level, I
                                                             would like to complete at least one Pathway, with
      As Division G Director, what is your vision  the intent on securing a second DTM within the
      for the Division this year?                            Pathways program.

          In making a report to the District recently
      I spoke of finding a new normal in Division  What would you share with those who are
      G. Over the past couple of years the world has  interested in taking on a leadership role
      changed dramatically in how people get together.  next year?

      With an influx of online opportunities at times           When my kids were younger and heading
      clashing with an innate desire to assemble with  off to school each morning I would send them
      like-minded people, Toastmasters meetings  off with these words: “have fun, learn stuff.”
      are evolving. I see a number of Clubs electing  That remains my advice to anyone interested

      to remain online for most of the meetings, at  in leadership roles—to have fun and to learn
      times only getting together in person for special  stuff. Toastmasters is a fun organization, I’ve
      occasions if at all. I see Clubs working on a hybrid  never been to a meeting that doesn’t in some way

      model, a meeting that includes in-person get  give me some joy at some level, and I can learn
      togethers with online participation combined.  something every time I get to be involved in a
      And of course, there are Clubs that are moving  Toastmasters activity. I have a pretty strong belief
      back to the traditional in-person Toastmasters  that the best leadership role in Toastmasters is
      meetings. My vision for Division G includes  Area Director. It’s not so much administrative

      helping Clubs find and settle into the new normal  and more about getting involved and helping
      for them, helping them become comfortable  the Clubs directly. It’s a great opportunity to
      in the type of meetings and get togethers that  meet new people and expand your Toastmasters

      work best for them. I envision a time when our  experience outside of your home Club. It’s
      Clubs are not “trying to recover” but have their  getting to visit different Toastmasters, what
      identities firmly in place to grow in their own  could possibly be better than that? My advice is
      space as they’ve come to know it.                      very simple, be an Area Director, have fun, and
                                                             learn stuff.
      What are your personal plans and goals

      for this year?
          In Toastmasters I have a couple of personal

      objectives for this year. Related to my role as
      Division Director, my goal is to start a new Club
      in Ridgefield, Washington where I live. I’ve been
      talking about it for some time but haven’t made as

      much progress as I’d like. I’m hoping that listing
      it here will help me to pull the trigger on some




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